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	<title>Comments on: Beware of Recycle bin objects and drop table triggers</title>
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		<title>By: Fuad Arshad</title>
		<link>http://www.fuadarshad.net/wp/2009/02/beware-of-recycle-bin-objects-and-drop-table-triggers/comment-page-1/#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>Fuad Arshad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary I  just validated that a space management operation does not cause an implicit commit on the transaction. It seems oracle is calling an autonomous transaction to complete the drop which would not impact the transaction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary I  just validated that a space management operation does not cause an implicit commit on the transaction. It seems oracle is calling an autonomous transaction to complete the drop which would not impact the transaction.</p>
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		<title>By: Fuad Arshad</title>
		<link>http://www.fuadarshad.net/wp/2009/02/beware-of-recycle-bin-objects-and-drop-table-triggers/comment-page-1/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>Fuad Arshad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Feb 2009 00:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>as far as what i drop this transaction did not commit probably becuase the drop trigger failed.  good point though and chen shapiro has a post has implicit DDL commits &lt;br/&gt;http://prodlife.wordpress.com/2009/02/11/ddl-implicit-commit/&lt;br/&gt;for a DDL before and after and in this case because of the drop table trigger the drop never happened and the insert never committed. i will have to create a  testcase and see if  a implicit drop table will cause a commit and this will be very concerning if it does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>as far as what i drop this transaction did not commit probably becuase the drop trigger failed.  good point though and chen shapiro has a post has implicit DDL commits <br /><a href="http://prodlife.wordpress.com/2009/02/11/ddl-implicit-commit/" rel="nofollow">http://prodlife.wordpress.com/2009/02/11/ddl-implicit-commit/</a><br />for a DDL before and after and in this case because of the drop table trigger the drop never happened and the insert never committed. i will have to create a  testcase and see if  a implicit drop table will cause a commit and this will be very concerning if it does.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Myers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Myers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 22:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any way of telling whether that implicit drop table actually causes a commit in the primary transaction, or is it done in the same way as an autonomous transaction ?</description>
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